Restoration update 21st Jan 2006
Launch dates announced......be there 25th/26th Feb for the first revenue earning runs. 1638 to go public at last!Yes its true. hard to believe but true. After all these years the time is here. 1638 is all but done. Fitters tweak this adjust that, reset whatever, but the bottom line is that after 13 years plus (and that's a significant part of anyone's life) the moment is nigh. The branchline weekend has been pencilled in as the big day. 1638 last earned money bashing the rails 42 years ago, but she's back, and she wont disappoint. Paint shines, brass sparkles, and if ever an engine looked the business, come down and see Richard Maunsell's finest in action. One of the great things about Maunsell engines is the well styled lines and balanced proportions of a purposeful engines. Well maybe I am biased but you aren't so come and take a look for yourself and see if I aren't right then! Our official press release gives the rest of the details (for indeed, the press have been hungry for news as they know what is in the offing! Taster pictures courtesy of John Fry
1638 in final preparation
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Shock Horror...large scale cover up in M.L.Society! |
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Work on 1638
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No No No, far from taking funds from the society, we are adding to them (see later), the "cover up" is what 1638 gets now she is at an advanced stage of restoration. It is also exceedingly difficult to do, but thanks to the skills of Ian Collins in particular take a look at some of these gems. The picture here (above) is of the cover that goes over the safety valves on top of the boiler. In times past, that is when making a production run of 30 of these engines, one would make a press mould of course. In the present situation ie: only one engine for the moment thank you, we have to use the alternative route and fabricate a replacement. The skill it takes to do the splendid job you see about is never better represented than by looking at the underside of the cover. Take a look. All the cuts and welds to shape the steels are done with care and precision. A master job. It isn't just the valve cover that gets the treatment either. The dome as shown last update is complete and painted, and then there are other covers too, such as the examples shown here below |
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A pipe cover, to go in situations such as over the
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Of course this is all only part of the story. There remains much constructional activity. The front of the boiler, in the smokebox area is made ready. Melvyn has welded in sacrificial plates in the lower smokebox that make ash removal easier. The area has been made ready also to receive the header assembly that gets bolted onto the front end of the front tubeplate. As you see, the unit is well prepared. The main steam pipes that connect the header to the outlets from the cylinder/valve assembly are to be replaced though. As a you can see (lower down the page) they are shot. The tube diameter is in the region of 5" and they are well decayed. The ends are corroded off. New tube ends are made as shown here, and a pipe with the necessary shaping will need to be made. Again the shape will need to be gained by a small "cut and weld" process rather than a shaping mandrel that was used in 1931. No small task. |
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There is more happening too. A wealth of little "this and that" jobs. Consider the pictures below. They show the running plates being fitted to the engine prior to bolting/ riveting as appropriate. The crane in the workshop makes this previously tricky job a real snip. Take a look too at the cab woodwork. The decking for the floor of the cab is just about there. It needs minor adjustments and then screwing down to finish. An interesting view is along the roof line. From the tender you see the cab roof, a hint of the safety valves, the dome assembly and the chimney smartly in line. ![]() ![]() |
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Finally then there is the question, how is this all paid for. Well the members are generous and we are thankful to all who have contributed and continue to do so. Every bit helps and all sources of revenue are investigated and the one you see here is a sales stand that we had running at the "Giants of Steam" weekend at Sheffield Park. We sell anything that makes profit really (er.. legal that is!), including books, magazines, videos etc, but also golf balls, paintings, and I am proud to say a book in Dutch to the only person at the Park on the day with a particular interest in Holland! As you can see we have a good working relationship with the Camelot group whose loco was on hand and shamelessly used as a backdrop! (They prefer the Platform 2 area truth told). If you are in the area, make your self known. A natter and a cup of tea is never far away. ![]() |
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Work on 1638
Back to the title though. The picture shows extensive deliberation by many members of the society on the different swatches of green prepared by Simon Allen (in both foreground and background). When is malachite not malachite? Usually when it says malachite on the tin it would seem. Anyway much chat and producing of books and matching swatches seems to have produced "a winner!" The target of this colour is Stowe's tender. It has the undercoat on, following its completion. It is sat in the running shed awaiting final attention. The main focus is of course on 1638.
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... you see the team above in all its glory enjoying lunch on the Sheffield Park platform. These are the commoners, as there are one or two in the Bessemers arms over the tracks! A chance for a natter in front of 847, our next overhaul candidate, is always welcome... and so are you, pop round sometime and make yourself known. Cheers Your Maunsell restoration team |
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Work on 1638
Other work underway is featured here with the main steamports that
sit under the smokebox, which itself has been made ready to fit to the front
tubeplate prior to boiler refitting for the live steam test. Now a dip in the
archives will tell you what a performance getting the steam port area cleaned
up was. Drilling out the sheared studs and trying to free off sealed joints.
The freezing conditions that were around when Barry Smith and I drilled out the
studs with the magnetic clamp drill are still fresh in the consciousness even
though it was a staggering 10 years ago (frightening!). Anyway, Ray has worked
hard on this and the repaired bolted solution is a perfect fix. Another task to consider is the tender axle boxes. Although we have always considered the tender a "done deal", this is not strictly true and one of the axle boxes is a bit "sticky" in its guides. Although everything was marked up on dismantling it looks suspiciously as if a error could have been made and we will have to check this out on the wheel drop facility in the workshop. |
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There has been other activity too. The cab roof has never been
completed, .. up until now, and the twist in it has been fixed thanks to Mel's
reworking of the roof strengthener. Just to complete the scene, here is the
smokebox which is ready for fitting to the boiler front. |
other newsWell, a concern is the PMV which looks well on the outside but needs a new floor. Its done for. There is daylight in places! This will need emptying soon. This has been brought to the fore by the fact that 847 is confirmed as the next job after 1638, and the stripping of it will necessitate storage facilities just like the PMV. Stowe is in the running shed but undergoing a repaint and will soon sport a coat of Malachite green for your enjoyment. |
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Work on 1638
Unfortunately not all the holes to which they re fitted are in top condition so this has to happen. Parts are weld strengthened or plate pieces grafted in. The hole drilled has to line up exactly with the hole in the outer plate and then they have to be tapped out with a thread. When you have done a few you get the effect shown with this nice neat row that is in the copper firebox. |
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When that's done then comes the best bit, depending on you idea of a good time. Its also a noisy and tricky bit, namely using a rivet gun to knock the ends over to get a sealed fit. It is this occupation in times past that ensured that boilermen were stone deaf well before retirement age. These days of course appropriate protection is not only to hand but mandatory. These below, are what they stays look like whilst being fitted by
the way. They don't stay so wonderfully shiny for long! These particular
examples, fitted to strengthened and repaired holes are only half fitted of
course they go right in for the threads to be engaged with both walls, the
smooth shank in the water jacket. |
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Down the pan! |
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The snap (right) shows the masterpiece on the deck. As you can see its mostly a 1/4" steel plate construction, hence the rotting completely of the previous pan. Sulphur rich ashes would soon see that off! |
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No smoking!
The other shot is off course the front side ready for use
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..and finally, I'd like to thank...
Other engines? well plans are afoot, and 847 and
Stowe are the likely benficiaries of course. 541 sits in the shed
patiently along with 1618. They make a fine Maunsell line up at the front of
the shed, under the new covered front end which has transparent roofing panels.
The chance to view them is much improved. Check them out on your next
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Work on 1638
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So, having a boiler, we will need to duct the steam at pressure to and from the cylinders. Well the ports in the saddle under the smokebox have been sat there as a known quantity for some time now. Their time has come. As you can see from the pics they are not in the prime of their youth! The threads in the ends are for the large part shot at. The shorter (inlet) manifolds are getting renewed and that is what the wooden pattern is about. New ones will be cast. The condition is explained by their position. They sit under the smokebox and were buried in most ash residue for years. One of the first jobs we did after boiler removal was to clear the ash away (and I remember the blisters well!) which was just as well or we would have to renew the lot by now I should reckon. |
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So having got the steam in and out of the cylinders the next task is to add the plumbing to make sure the other functions can work correctly. What you are looking at here is the lower side of the right hand cylinder with said pipework in place. Yet more copper that will need a shine up to look its best! And that's about it. There is no movement on any of the other engines, save to mention a big thanks to Rod Packham for attending to yet more woodwork problems on our PMV (Van). This is not high profile or glamourous but it is absolutely vital if we are to still have a van in the future. There aren't too many of these around any more so all work is appreciated here too. |
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Work on "Stowe"
Stowe's tender then is almost the "done deal". It needs painting and evening up on the springs, and a bit of small work such as the beading on the plate edges, but really its 95% done. It certainly makes one sit back and think "now what about the engine itself?" and to this end a costing job is going on to get the project management kick started.
Hoping to be able to join the picture possibilities soon is of course our other U class, 1638 |
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There are jobs "on the bench" still taking place. The picture shows so of the non ferrous pieces. The regulator plate is clear. The rings are pipe union pieces. Another piece on the bench is a newly fabricated firebox door set. All ready for action. |
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The cab roof is off presently and is getting tweaked , with he need to resolve one or two snags on this piece. What the frames are really waiting for of course is the boiler. The Boiler It is the boiler that is the key to the rest of the restoration. The estimate of next Easter to run is wholly achievable but this is entirely dependent on progress by the coded welders. This in turn is dependent on jobs that arise in the works, such as the current repairs to Blackmore Vale. As this engine is sought for the Giants of Steam day, it has priority.
The pictures below show the area prepared for the fitting of the corner and lower side plates of the firebox outer wrapper, and on the right a shot into the firebox tubeplate which as you can see from all the lovely shiny copper shavings is made ready to receive new tubes. That's is about the size of it. The boiler dictates the pace at which we can move forward to get the job finished. Having said that there is no doubt that the Bluebell Railway as well as ourselves, is very keen to get through these tasks and have the engine in revenue earning service again as soon as possible. Well we are all waiting for that one aren't we?! |
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Huge Rave held at Sheffield Park Works! |
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Work on "Stowe"
Take a look at this top-on view of the tender and you will see that we are almost there with it. There are the fiddly corner pieces to do, another tool box, and some under tank welding to sort, but no big kicks.
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The side on view allows one to dream a bit about how things will be with the boiler back in the frames |
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The Boiler And so we move on to the missing link to completion, that is the
boiler. We are dependent somewhat on the presence and action of the contract
welders at Bluebell works. Having said that much has happened and pieces are
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What you are admiring here is as follows; from the top left clockwise. Firstly a hole! the backplate has been cut out of the back of the boiler. It is here that there was a cut already made by British Rail who were contemplating fixing her before going for the easier scrapping option, so replacement here is hardly a surprise. Next you will see what was cut from the boiler, namely the rotten backplate. Even on such a small screen picture it is clear the poor condition this piece had. Next is the new piece, cut to shape and drilled to suit so all the stay holes match up. Finally there is an example of one of the corner pieces. That it is in poor shape is no surprise either as the water circulates at speed inside the boiler when hot, so the corners get a hammering. The piece is meant to taper to a point (overlapping of plates) towards the right hand edge, but thickness has been lost and the suface damage is clear. As you can see, there is a nice new full thickness piece of boiler grade steel being made ready to take its place. |
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The lower edges of the sides of the firebox have had similar attention and here you can see the lower 10" or so of the outer wrapper, which attaches to the foundation ring (nearest you) has been cut in anticipation of a new piece. Again this is just the kind of piece that is typically renewed due to the extreme wear is would get in regular service. Also on view here is the other end of the boiler, that is, the front tubeplate which has now been riveted in place, save for the lowest rivets which will be done when the boiler is flipped over to do the other side of the firebox.
It has to be said though that we are very pleased with progress and that light at the end of the tunnel is shining nice and bright! 847, 541, 1618 A brief word on the other engines. Things are looking up for 541 and 1618 now as the running shed end has been completed, They are near the front so the light from the see through roof panels is welcome, but not as welcome as the complete protection from the elements that the new and attractive it has to be said, shed end provides. 847 is not so lucky. Down on the Newick end siding, 847 is next to our PMV van and has received some basic maintenance and attention. We are assured that she will be moved to a more prominent position so she can at least be a static exhibit until here turn comes. She is ready for a boiler lift so we are lobbying for a sooner rather than later position in the queue. |
Weld-done All!A quick review of latest happenings 1638 |
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This is not the only activity with some of the tube work to go into the boiler receiving attention. We already have 21 new flue tubes in stock and these are being cleaned up prior to fitting to the new tubeplate. The smaller but more numerous smoke tubes are on order, 173 of them (hence the recent tube appeal which is still open by the way!)
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New palm stays have been fitted too, these bracing the front of the inner firebox to the bottom of the boiler. |
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Work on "Stowe"
Stowe's tender continues to progress. As you can see from these two pictures we have the before and after!. The ribs have to be accurately placed and welded in, then skinned with new plates. These plates are now fitted. the two large plates alone cost £1235. More steel plate has arrived on site and is being welded into position. The upper raves are now being fitted. The dirt and mess from the assembly phase has been cleaned up and is protected up using top quality paint. Mechanically, the brake blocks are now fitted and the brake rigging has been made operational. Some of the smaller items such as the tool boxes are being made ready to weld onto the tender |
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A Special Mention We note with sadness the death of George Nickson in June 2004, who passed away peacefully at the age of 68. George had been a stalwart member of the Bluebell Railway's loco dept for many years. It was George who actually purchased 1638 back in 1980 and then gave it to the Bluebell Railway. It is to be regretted that we have not been able to get 1638 finished in time for George to see and savour. However George did not put any pressure on us, he knew the job was getting done, and done well. That was pleasure enough for him. So thank you George for your generosity all those years ago. |
Coppering Up!There is some excellent progress on several fronts so here's the latest on how things are coming along 1638 |
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The backhead panels are all removed and the plates to fit are under construction. Other work in the offing for the boiler will be undertaken by our Chairman Ray who will resurface the regulator valve which has been removed from the dome area. The refurb of the regulator rod and handle is already in hand. Another item that is made and awaiting fitting is the tubeplate. This substantial piece of work looks a treat. Of course when riveted to the barrel of the boiler it will need plenty of tubes fitting in it. Please refer to our "sponsor a tube" appeal to move this job along! |
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Finally, we are looking ahead to the painting of the engine. With
the later thirties dark olive in favour, due largely to the fact that it will
match up beautifully to the rake of Maunsell coaches that the railway has in
the same colour, colour matching has taken place. Samples from distributors
have been sample painted to the right rear driving wheel. As you can see the
distributors idea of what constituted match and ours were somewhat different.
Ray was able to track down a company that could correctly match the colour spec
though, so orders can be made in due course. |
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Work on "Stowe"
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Other matters Well, 541 is in the shed and to be honest likely to stay for a while yet, along with our other U Class, 1618. On the bright side though the new shed wall and roof extension is under construction and so total cover will be the result, something our rather exposed Q class has really needed. 847 remains in the siding but is a candidate for attention in the near future, as of course is Stowe itself. |
Restoration info - posted 21st February 2004Tanx for everything!An update on recent developments through the winter are in order and so here are a few notes. Progress is taking place on two fronts. 1638
The next stage of the boiler overhaul involves specialist copper welding repairs to the inner firebox, which are due to start shortly, then the boiler will be turned over for repair on other side of the inner firebox. Then the steel outer wrapper plate will be renewed in the areas that have been cut out. This is done by preparing a replacement plate of the appropriate grade steel to weld into place. If the piece happens to be flat then that's fine, but of course curved pieces have to be prepared in advance and for that we have to buy in boilersmith services. The welding being a specialised highly skilled task is undertaken by contract welders working on site at the Bluebell workshops. |
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Work on "Stowe"
The careful and painstaking work of measuring out ribs for the inside of the tank is underway. When cut out the position has to be established and it welded into place. This has to be right if we are to have an even, strong and regular shaped tank. As you can see Melvyn is making a good job of it. The advantageous position in the workshop is making for good progress. There is a certain amount of "making hay whilst the sun shines", and the benefits of an inside position for working during the winter months is well appreciated by the working party. |
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Restoration info - posted 23rd November 2003The cut and thrust of it allSplendid progress has taken place recently and here are some pictures to prove it! 1638 |
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The replacement pieces of steel to go in the cut areas are boiler grade and in some places flat, but in others and this will be known when the foundation ring (the spacer between the inner and outer firebox wrappers, at the base of the boiler) is removed later on, will be curved and will need specialist boilersmith services to have them made. Current favoured purveyors of this service are Pridhams, the well known boiler repair company who attend so many steam locomotives. |
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Here you are looking at the cut edge of the wrapper on the front face of the firebox. You can get an impression of the number of stays that keep the distance between inner and outer wrappers.
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Work on "Stowe"
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The low shot here shows the necessary detail including the tender number casting, 714 in our case. The tender was paired with "Eastbourne" when it was new |
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Other Engines I'm afraid that there is little to tell. 847 awaits a workshop slot and is on the head shunt away from view for most people, and 1618, and the unlucky (so near yet so far!) 541 remain in the shed, keeping their places in the queue. Though at least 541, which at least is one of the first engines visitors see when they arrive, has has a cleaning "makeover" with buffer paint and a boiler paintwork cleanup. Well done to the team that undertook this less than glamourous but much appreciated work
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Excellent progress to report on various fronts. 1638 Ray Bellingham has completed all the machining and assembly work on 1638's motion and it looks an absolute treat of precision engineering and polished brass and steel. Close examination of the finish on the small details, such as the oil pots, nuts and split pins shows how dedicated Ray has been to the task. He now needs a bit of space in the works to move the chassis one revolution of the wheels in order to set the valves. He has also been busy re-assembling the sanding and damper gear in the cab which involves all sorts of bits of fiddly rodding and levers and organising machining of some of the various brass fittings for the cab. This includes work on the pressure relief and drain cock valves which Tony Deller has undertaken Clive Williams, a very useful new member to our working gang, had the fiddly task of fitting the new axle box covers that Melvyn Frohnsdorff had made. Various studs in the frames had rusted up and needed to be freed off before they could be fitted. Some of the other members of the Sunday gang such as Clive Bean, Ian Hawkins and David Jones have been fettling up the front steps and running plates that need to go back up above the cylinders. Frank Glue has persevered with tackling the defective copper stays, which has involved chiseling off the heads and drilling them out as appropriate. On a recent Sunday Russell Donovan (one of the Dukedog gang) stepped in when Frank was not around and got stuck in with Keith Sturt in removing the nuts of other stays that need to come out. And finally Ray Bellingham has got the new blank tube plate into the work shop and at the time of writing was about to get started on the long job of machining out all the holes for the flues, tubes and wash out plugs etc. Finishing this off will be another big step forward. 928 Stowe's tender Meanwhile Melvyn and the Sunday gang continue to rattle along with work on Stowe's tender. Melvyn finished the gutsy job of getting the horn guide castings true and square and then mounted the new horn guide faces up in position. Once he started offering up the axle boxes it was found that they were also a bit tight and so Melvyn and others have had a real hard time of it getting the boxes to fit - but as this is written there was about one more days work to do and then a crane could be hired in order to re-wheel the chassis in November. It certainly has been a bit of a struggle of a job but we will all be pleased to see the chassis re-wheeled and on the road again. The next job will be to crack on with construction of the tender tank. Meanwhile Simon Allan, David Jones and Paul Skinner have all done some stalwart work on cleaning up and repainting 541 such that it now looks one of the tidiest of all the engines in store in the running shed.
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The pictures on view will tell you that although we have made good progress in recent weeks, there is nothing physically BIG to show for it. Take for example the motion on 1638. The valve gear is all in and links are up. You don't get to see therefore the piston and rings etc. What we do have is the motion in the "home straight" awaiting only a few odds and ends and timing up. This is to the credit of Ray Bellingham who has put in a great effort to make this happen. The cloth is there to protect the slidebars that have been up some time. Take a look at some of the work that has to be done. Currently the expansion links are being prepared. These are original pieces and the left picture shows clearly the state they are in. It is on the bed on the machine that resurfaces the main journal/boss. Take a look at the other picture now to see the end result. |
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This then is what you get to see after all the hard work.... ie: not a lot!! Its all bolted up and shiny. the keen eyed amongst you will note that our engine has the original inside ported cylinders. This is Southern railway spec. Some were later modified (1625 at the Mid Hants is one) to have the British Railway pattern with the main steam inlet port visibly emerging from the lower side of the smokebox rather than underneath and out of sight. |
Work on "Stowe"
Stowe's tender continues to develop. As you can see from the pictures, the tender base is going down now and Melvyn is there to be spotted with the mag drill locating and creating the main points.. 3 sheets of steel will be welded to create one. This then will be the base on which the tank is created just as we did with 1638. (Don't worry about the Malachite green by the way, it will be in Olive, its just the undercoat in place!) Now the problem is that the tender needs re-wheeling really in order to create the level frame surface (as well as moveable one) for the tank to be created upon it. This can only be done when the wheels sets, which you can see all clean, machined, and ready, are matched up to the axle boxes and fitted. This needs white-metalling and machining to be done, and then a crane opportunity to be arranged for the physical lifting of frames onto wheels sets. The hornguides (plates that locate the axleboxes, are worn thin too so these need to be made before any re-wheeling can be done. This will need to be a priority soon or work will grind to a halt. |
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Other Engines I'm afraid that there is little to tell. 847 awaits a workshop slot and is on the head shunt away from view for most people, and 1618, and the unlucky (so near yet so far!) 541 remain in the shed, keeping their places in the queue.
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The motion then. As you can see from the picture, much of this is up. The valves are the next thing and fresh heads and new rings have already been prepared and sourced. The valve timing will need to be set, but all the various bits and pieces are coming together for this operation. There are also a few castings either being machined, or coming out of storage such as the cylinder lubricator pot shown here. there's a whole wealth of them on the engine really. The next steps then are, set the valves up, get the boiler in, and set to with welders. How much has to be replaced depends on what is found when the boiler is opened up properly. The tubeplate which we have as a steel blank, will need to be drilled. This very repetitive exercise requires use of the large radial arm drill, and is likely to take some time. There are a lot of holes requiring precise drilling. |
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Other Engines I'm afraid that there is little to tell. 847 awaits a workshop slot and is on the head shunt away from view for most people, and 1618, and the unlucky (so near yet so far!) 541 remain in the shed, keeping their places in the queue.
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Of course what's on the engine presently is only a small part of what goes on. Consider the link shown here. Its one thing to get the forging done, and another to get the machining done. When that is achieved its tempting to think that the job is just about done. Alas no! The various rods have to be fitted out with bushes, and the pins with their fixing nuts and assorted location pins have to be made, and reamed to the correct exact size. Not exactly a 2 mins job. This simple explanation in itself overlooks that many of the motion pieces need whitemettaling, and machining. Quite a performance all in all. Much of this is now achieved however, and although the engine itself doesn't look too different from earlier, great advances have ben made. |
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The insert here shows another focus of attention, namely the valve
rods. They have been stripped bare and the surfaces made ready for the various
valve fittings they will carry. The cylinder rods are undergoing a similar
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Here is a nice little example of how "doing it right" counts, but
by the same token takes a fair bit of time. The casting in the picture goes at
the end of the valve chest. The plug that is held is new. The thread state in
the casting was very poor. Attempts were made to get hold of a tap to re-cut
the thread. Not surprisingly perhaps none was to be found. The alternative was
to painstakingly working the thread with a thread file and similar tools to
chase the thread out by hand. A great job, and a satisfaction to know this, but
you don't get to actually see a lot for the time invested! All credit to Ray on
that one. Mention must also be made of the stirling, and less pleasant work carried out by the Sunday gang. One such task involved sitting atop the engine, where the smokebox will sit in due course, and with scraper in hand, delving into the main steam ports. Its no use doing all this lovely engineering if the first time you fire the engine up, assorted sediment, goo and loose bits get dragged into the wonderfully prepared cylinder / valve areas. A generous portion of disgusting tar like goo was retrieved from the walls of these ports. Not nice but someone has to do it! |
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"Stowe" Stowe's tender is going to be good as new. The front end is complete as you can see. Its a good strong job and this led to a closer view of the rear drag box. It s was decided that there is little point in having a first rate front end and a rear box that will require attention in 5 years time. The following picture shows the solution therefore. The back box has been removed. Even on a picture this size it should be possible to see the wasting that has taken place on the plates near where they have been attached to each other. This will cost us in steel of course but its much better than the alternative. A further diet of needle gunning, fabrication, riveting and painting is following. |
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Other Engines I'm afraid that there is little to tell. 847 awaits a workshop slot, and 1618, and the unlucky (so near yet so far!) 541 remain in the shed, keeping their places in the queue. The PMV Mention must be made through of the hard work being done by Rod Packham. You may recall (many forget) that we are also the owners of what is becoming an increasingly rare breed, namely a Southern PMV wagon. This wooden framed van has acted as a store for us for many years now and is to be found currently at the very end of the siding at Sheffield Park, that can just about be seen from the road as one approaches the Park from Haywards Heath. Rod has put much maintenance effort into preserving this wagon in good shape. His carpentry skills have come in handy as he has replaced quite a few rotten planks, usually to be found at the bottom of the wagons 8 doors. he has also applied much paint to the the vehicle with the result that its quite a shame that the wagon is out of sight because it looks like what it is, a good authentic Southern vehicle. |
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...and finally I know that this has nothing to do with the Maunsell society, but as you are reading this you must be interested in steam engines. The preservation movement has come a long way in 40 years. Early operation of engines for example depended on getting a loco from BR that was " a runner". Serious repairs (anything above a general "lube and fix it" were either not on, or had too be bought in expensively). To me the work on the terrier tanks done recently act as a major landmark for how far we have come. The manufacture of a new cylinder for a locomotive would have been beyond the farthest fetched dreams of early pioneers, but that is exactly what has happened. It was mentioned in a Bluebell news recently, but I reckon its an achievement worth a closer look. Brian Wilkie has spent the last 2 years making a 50 piece pattern to suit the cylinders of an LBSC terrier tank. The first casting using the pattern is shown. It weighs in, by the foundry's' estimate at two thirds of a ton. Its a testing prototype, but it looks very promising and I am told it should machine up well. An impressive achievement to my mind.
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1638 Far from it.. we are most interested and quite chuffed too. 1638 is in the works you see, and thanks to the fact that our Chairman Ray has gone down to 3 days working for the Bluebell, we have been able to pick up the other 2 days and so, things have moved apace. For a start getting the engine in the works is a most helpful move. The chassis can be cleaned up and prepared for further work, which Ian Hawkins is pitching in with. This ensures that Ray is available to do more technical stuff, like match the motion up etc etc. |
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When we received 1638, we were lucky enough to have slidebars for it. They were in a poor state, but these have been restored to their former glory, and have been fitted up to the engine. Top bars should be on too by the time you read this. |
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Work on "Stowe"
You may notice from the outside of the frames that everything looks as it should; hardly a trace of the extensive rebuild that has been undertaken. The inside of the frames shot shows the weld line, as this has not been ground flush, and so the line between old and new is quite clear. The next step is to rivet up the prepared brackets, and so on to preparation and refitting of items like brake gear, vacuum cylinders etc, and preparation of the axle boxes leading to rewheeling. |
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Quite so. Unlike 1638's tender, there is a serious frames issue on Stowes tender, as shown last time. What is in progress therefore is frame repair and drag box replacement at the front end.
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The second photo shows the rear drag box with the top removed. Clive is giving the rest of it the needle gun treatment. This is unpleasant work but essential if the strength of the section is to be guaranteed. |
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Another piece of progress has ben achieved by our Chairman, Ray Bellingham. Has machined the white-metalled bushes that are to be fitted to the rods in due course. The nicely cut metal looks a treat, with only the keyways to machine on the sides of the bushes. As a complete set with the machined rods, they look quite smart too. |
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PS: Other engines!
Bye for now! |
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... and the dodgy pun matches the dodgy state that Stowes' tender
has gotten into over that last few years. With 1638's tender completed, the
engine is about as far on as she is going to get without some reserved time in
the workshop to get her finished off... specifically the boiler in particular
receiving the expert attention of the welders. This time is promised, so 1638
is at a stand still until this happens. There is an exception to this though.
Since Ray eased off from full time working at the works, he has made himself
available to the society who have hired him for 2 days a week. This is a good
arrangement, as Ray doesn't have to work longer, but we get 2 dedicated days of
his highly skilled time in a workshop with all its facilities made available to
us. The upshot? well much skilled work gets done and volunteer work is
supplemented to keep things moving along. In the immediate future this
manifests itself as the bushes for the rods. Ray has already lined them with
white metal, and they are going to get machined to suit the journals and rods
in the weeks ahead. 1638 will then be shunted into the works to try the rods up
against the engine and adjust them to finish the job off. Hey presto, another
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You are looking at it from the worst end... the inner frame plates will indicate this. The front drag box is pretty ugly too. In short the front third is a mess!. The flip side is that the other 2 thirds are quite good and unlike 1638 we should be able to keep the rear drag box. The 2 pictures below show the extent of the front third wear and tear The 3/8"s plate as you will notice is rotted through. Note also the riveted patch that BR fitted towards the front. this was clearly a problem with some history. A bit of hearsay now!
Whilst musing to others that this must have been a long-standing problem dating from the early 60's (ie: 40 ago!) and so must have been like that when Stowe was last running in the early 80's, someone said that they recalled that if the brakes were applied hard the floor could have been felt to move under the feet of the crew!! Yikes. We are talking quite some time ago now of course, but nevertheless, I'm glad that she is getting the full treatment this time around clearly it is overdue! |
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Look closely at this drag box. See the middle plates between the
upper and lower sections? They are attached to the upper alright. They should
be to the bottom too, but are 1" adrift. As the rivet cutting equipment shows, this is the end that is getting replaced. |
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Due to a fortuitous opportunity to acquire appropriate steel, we have the chance to construct pieces for the new tank etc. so whilst some people are cutting, and needle gunning (yes, back to all that noise again) others can make pieces with kit such as the magnetic drill that you can see in action here.
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Here we go again, and Mark is going for it with the needle gun to
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Finally, you may well wonder who the active restoration team are. Well on a recent Sunday many (though not all... apologies to the absent) were at the Park at the same time. I took the opportunity to take this shot. This particular dirty dozen are
Back row: Peter Jessop, Steve Pilcher, Barry Smith, Jim Thomas
Front Row: Ian Hawkins, Rod Packham, Mike Gibbins, Clive Bean, Frank
Glue, Paul Skinner, Melvyn Frohnsdorff, Paul Thorp.
Bye for now!
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The work on the tender of 1638 is effectively finished. Sure there are a few loose ends, such as paint work, wooden decking and a bit of pipework underneath, but in real terms the job is done. We are as you might image very pleased at this and, the tender looks great. Incidentally, it is planned to paint on the "Southern" wording and 1638, to identify it; after all we are really pleased with it. This will get repainted though, as when the engine and tender are finally outshopped together, we want a perfect colour and condition match. As this event is still some time in the future then what we do now will make it look good and stay in good condition, but not be the final top coat. What then about subsequent progress on 1638? well the engine chassis is done. The boiler is where the real work is. You may recall that we stripped the boiler out some 3 or 4 years ago. The boiler has been shifted in the yard. It is going to get its new front tubeplate bolted on temporarily to allow it to have some balance for safety's sake so that it can be crane hoisted and turned for close examination of the foundation ring. This is the steel ring that is at the bottom of the boiler which bridges the couple of inches between the inner copper firebox, and the outer steel wrapper that is visible. This is also where most work is anticipated as steel sections need cutting and renewing and grafting in. The other focus of activity will be on the motion. We have the rods and bushes, but these will need fitting up to the engine. This requires time, patience, and machining work. It also requires the cylinders and valve chests to be honed at best, skimmed at worst. This of course will require the engine to be in the works. On this score the situation looks quite positive. Whilst things change regularly at the Bluebell, encouraging noises that give us some grounds for optimism have been emanating from the Bluebell railway, as several engines vie for limited workshop time and space. It does help that the society is in a position to ease the engines' passage through the works with some purchased engineers time to supplement volunteer time. |
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Tenders R Us
Work has started therefore. As you can see the rotten tank has
been stripped back. The bottom 2 feet or so were completely rotten, and a new
tank will be built. The frame condition is an unknown quantity until the tank
base is removed. The frames will then go on jacks and get the needle gun
treatment. The wheels will come out, as before and probably get turned. The
jury is still out on that one. Some drag box work will be necessary, though
hopefully not as extensive as that done on 1638.... we will have to see. Things have proceeded apace as we are dealing with an empty tender. With 1638 we had a concrete filled tank! No JCB necessary this time. The tender comes from 914 Eastbourne, which Stowe was paired with in the late 50's. The right side seems to have been re-skinned at some time as the ribs and plates on this side panel are welded up, whereas the rest of the tank is of earlier rivet construction. The amount of rust sludge in the bottom was immense. There would certainly have been filter and feed problems had the tank be adjudged sound enough to keep I suspect. As can be seen below, the "Southern" and number writing was cut out, but this only dates from the preservation era of course... no original paint has been found as yet. |
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847 We should not forget that we have other engines too of course. 847 has now static display duties only. Whether she gets a workshop berth or not depends on the complex options that face the finite resources of the workshop. The job would be comparatively painless, but still requiring that scarce commodity of time. Check out the progress on its own page here |
541, 1618
Poor old 541`.... so near yet so far! This popular engine was in line for a works place to get an overhaul. She needs a tender tank and a boiler over haul. Then Stowe came along, and 847 was also looking a good bet. The upshot is that 541 goes back to the queue! She has had her motion brushed and oiled to keep the rust off, but sits on static duties in the shed at Sheffield Park.
1618, as before is confined to the queue. With 1638 in pole position for works attention, 1618's place is a long way off yet.
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As you can see then most of the panelling is in the tender. All the odd shaped pieces have been cut ands shaped and welded. It was a long drawn out tricky thing to do I can tell you, so much credit to Melvyn then for sorting it out. The boxes that look like the eyes are tool boxes, and the "nose" is the coal hole door. This is a sliding door for the fireman to operate. As you might notice too the whole thing is in red oxide paint, pending undercoating and top coating. This wont happen until it is in the works. The rear upper panel to the tank has been deliberately left off though as access is needed ot the tank insides. This has been cleaned out and red oxided. What you can see in the picture though is Jim giving the innards a coat of (sky blue) "bridge paint", real weatherproofing stuff. The tank isn't water tight yet, as it gets bolted to the frames. When in the works the crane will lift it off (lifting eyes already fitted) and the seams on the underside will get their second pass. Welding fumes is another reason the last panel remains unfitted. |
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